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bobcatt46 Rookie Author Tucson Posts:1 Points:220 Joined:Oct 2010	Message Posted: Mar 2, 2011 1:25:40 PM Ignore bobcatt46 Report Abuse Suggest a TAB be included for both E-20(Diesel Alt) & E-85 (AutoFuel Alt) should be made available given the number of users who really are LOOKING FOR AN ALTERNATIVE to conventional fuels.

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Suggest a TAB be included for both E-20(Diesel Alt) & E-85 (AutoFuel Alt) should be made available given the number of users who really are LOOKING FOR AN ALTERNATIVE to conventional fuels.

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1Flyingstar Rookie Author Los Angeles Posts:32 Points:22,415 Joined:May 2008	Message Posted: May 4, 2011 11:03:35 AM Ignore 1Flyingstar Report Abuse I have been running Biodiesel in my 2006 Dodge ram 2500 pickup since it was new. I have run from B5 all the way to B99. once I changed the fuel filter (from the solvent effect of Bio) i have never had one problem, in fact the motor is quieter. (better lubricity than Dino) 70K now. biggest problem is finding it.
pgerassi Champion Author Milwaukee Posts:10,896 Points:2,131,605 Joined:Apr 2007	Message Posted: Apr 15, 2011 8:10:53 PM Ignore pgerassi Report Abuse If you get 32MPG of E0 and 29MPG on E10, there is something quite wrong with your vehicle, the driver, or more likely, the way you tested? I get 33.1MPG on E0 and 32.9MPG on E10 using the exact same pump both before and after the route I use driving the same way at the same time of day in roughly the same conditions (sunnny calm day) on each one. That is more in line with what one should get with a properly maintained car, a 0-2% drop going from E0 to E10. The major variables are not using the same exact pump may change the fuel inserted by +/- 1 gallon which on a 120 mile route makes for an error range of +33/-25% for a 30MPG fuel. Driving differences can also lead to large errors especially when there is a desired result before the test (its human nature). The driver drives hard and fast with lots of braking on the undesirable fuel (even unconciously this can still lead to large errors) and drives slow and gentle, coasts and helps it along on the desirable fuel. This is usually the reason for double blind tests where the driver doesn't know which fuel is currently being tested and the researchers don't know which one until after the results are recorded and computed. The others do affect the final results enough to cover an up to 10% discrepency like yours.
nrg2004 Champion Author Austin Posts:2,345 Points:703,205 Joined:Mar 2004	Message Posted: Apr 15, 2011 3:36:43 PM Ignore nrg2004 Report Abuse i prefer e0 at 32 mpg than e10 at 29 mpg
91Firebird Champion Author Oklahoma City Posts:4,586 Points:178,470 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Mar 28, 2011 2:49:50 PM Ignore 91Firebird Report Abuse Add E0 to the tab too please. Make it easier on us to find real gas.
boutmuet Champion Author Orange County Posts:3,598 Points:912,390 Joined:Apr 2009	Message Posted: Mar 26, 2011 4:58:30 PM Ignore boutmuet Report Abuse There is no need to put biodiesel in my petrodiesel.
mtnrambo Champion Author West Virginia Posts:1,481 Points:459,315 Joined:Jan 2007	Message Posted: Mar 20, 2011 7:12:14 AM Ignore mtnrambo Report Abuse if it was designed to run on diesel, burn diesel, designed to run on gasoline, burn gasoline... keep it simple stupid...
WEPSMAN Champion Author South Dakota Posts:10,513 Points:2,023,925 Joined:Mar 2005	Message Posted: Mar 17, 2011 10:10:01 AM Ignore WEPSMAN Report Abuse I have not seen much B-5 much less B-20 fuel around here. Very few stations carry it here. [Edited by: WEPSMAN at 3/17/2011 10:10:20 AM EST]
brerrabbitTX Champion Author Houston Posts:1,026 Points:18,205 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: Mar 16, 2011 11:25:03 AM Ignore brerrabbitTX Report Abuse Actually if you are talking diesel the industry refers to it as B-20, the B standing for Bio products. So the term would be Bio diesel. Keep in mind most diesel engine makers will only warrenty up to a B-5 blend, so use over that becomes at your own risk. Additionally if you live in colder climates make sure whatever bio you use has winterized additives in it as colder bio fuel tends to thicken up and turn to gel. Bio fuels are made from soy, rape seed oil (mostly in Europe) recycled cooking oils, and even animal fat.
MudNutZ All-Star Author Mississippi Posts:910 Points:632,290 Joined:Nov 2010	Message Posted: Mar 16, 2011 12:12:08 AM Ignore MudNutZ Report Abuse This is the first time I'm hearing about E-20. I guess I need to go read about it since I have a Diesel.
CiVX Champion Author Oakland Posts:7,050 Points:1,358,610 Joined:Feb 2009	Message Posted: Mar 4, 2011 4:25:41 AM Ignore CiVX Report Abuse Yes and an EV/ Hybrid one to.
GrumpyCat Champion Author Alabama Posts:2,606 Points:788,810 Joined:Jun 2009	Message Posted: Mar 3, 2011 3:42:00 PM Ignore GrumpyCat Report Abuse Only if one ALSO includes an ethanol-free category. You also forgot propane and CNG, possibly because they are are not darlings of the Green Lobby?